Melbourne vs Carlton matches -- 1866 to 1886
Background
Melbourne (formed 1858) and Carlton (1864) first played each other in 1866.
They played each other three time each season from 1866-1869, then four times every season from 1870 to 1883.
During the 1870s the pre-eminence of these clubs meant their clashes decided Victoria's premier club in every season from 1871 to 1877.
Only the emergence of Geelong in 1878 broke the Melbourne-Carlton domination.
It was not until 1886 that Melbourne and Carlton played each other just twice in a season, regularising this clash among the other fixtures.
Results of all matches -- 1866 to 1886
1866
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30 June 1866 |
Melbourne |
1 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground |
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Carlton |
0 |
Result: DRAW |
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Two goals were required to win (until 1869) |
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21 July 1866 |
Melbourne |
2 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground |
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Carlton |
0 |
Result: Melbourne won by 2 goals |
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18 August 1866 |
Melbourne |
2 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground |
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Carlton |
0 |
Result: Melbourne won by 2 goals |
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1867
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25 May 1867 / |
Melbourne |
0 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground |
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1 June 1867 |
Carlton |
0 |
Result: DRAW |
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Game commenced on May 25 and resumed on June 1 |
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22 June 1867 |
Melbourne |
0 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground |
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Carlton |
2 |
Result: Carlton won by 2 goals |
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24 August 1867 |
Melbourne |
0 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground |
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Carlton |
0 |
Result: DRAW |
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1868
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30 May 1868 |
Melbourne |
0 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground |
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Carlton |
1 |
Result: DRAW |
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Two goals were required to win (until 1869) |
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4 July 1868 |
Melbourne |
0 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground |
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Carlton |
0 |
Result: DRAW |
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15 August 1868 |
Melbourne |
0 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground |
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Carlton |
0 |
Result: DRAW |
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1869
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12 June 1869 |
Melbourne |
0 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground; Attendance: 2000 |
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Carlton |
2 |
Result: Carlton won by 2 goals |
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17 July 1869 |
Carlton |
0 |
Venue: Royal Park |
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Melbourne |
1 |
Result: Melbourne won by 1 goal |
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28 August 1869 |
Melbourne |
0 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground |
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Carlton |
0 |
Result: DRAW |
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This match was staged to decide the champion of the colony |
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1870
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11 June 1870 |
Melbourne |
1 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground; Attendance: 2000 |
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Carlton |
0 |
Result: Melbourne won by 1 goal |
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First time teams change ends at half time |
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30 July 1870 |
Carlton |
0 |
Venue: Royal Park |
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Melbourne |
0 |
Result: DRAW |
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17 September 1870 |
Melbourne |
1 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground |
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Carlton |
0 |
Result: Melbourne won by 1 goal |
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24 September 1870 |
Melbourne |
1 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground; Attendance: Large |
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Carlton |
1 |
Result: DRAW |
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1871
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10 June 1871 |
Melbourne |
- |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground |
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Carlton |
- |
Result: Cancelled |
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Cancelled - weather |
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8 July 1871 |
Melbourne |
0 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground |
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Carlton |
0 |
Result: DRAW |
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5 August 1871 |
Carlton |
0 |
Venue: Royal Park; Attendance: Large |
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Melbourne |
0 |
Result: DRAW |
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2 September 1871 |
Melbourne |
- |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground |
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Carlton |
- |
Result: Cancelled |
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Cancelled - weather |
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30 September 1871 |
Melbourne |
0 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground; Attendance: Large |
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Carlton |
0 |
Result: DRAW |
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Not a Challenge Cup match. Result revised from 0-1. |
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7 October 1871 |
Carlton |
2 |
Venue: Albert Park; Attendance: Large |
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Melbourne |
0 |
Result: Carlton won by 2 goals |
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Neutral venue for the decider |
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1872
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1 June 1872 |
Carlton |
0 |
Venue: Royal Park |
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Melbourne |
1 |
Result: Melbourne won by 1 goal |
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29 June 1872 |
Melbourne |
0 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground; Attendance: 3000 |
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Carlton |
0 |
Result: DRAW |
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3 August 1872 |
Carlton |
1 |
Venue: Royal Park |
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Melbourne |
0 |
Result: Carlton won by 1 goal |
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Carlton 16 men vs Melbourne 15 men. Play commenced 3:45pm |
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7 September 1872 |
Melbourne |
1 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground; Attendance: Immense |
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Carlton |
0 |
Result: Melbourne won by 1 goal |
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Start 3:15pm |
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1873
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14 June 1873 |
Carlton |
1 |
Venue: Royal Park |
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Melbourne |
1 |
Result: DRAW |
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19 July 1873 |
Melbourne |
1 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground; Attendance: 6000 |
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Carlton |
2 |
Result: Carlton won by 1 goal |
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Venue: Melbourne Ground (Richmond Paddock) |
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2 August 1873 |
Carlton |
1 |
Venue: Royal Park; Attendance: 5000-6000 |
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Melbourne |
0 |
Result: Carlton won by 1 goal |
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13 September 1873 |
Melbourne |
- |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground |
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Carlton |
- |
Result: Cancelled |
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Cancelled - weather |
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27 September 1873 |
Melbourne |
0 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground; Attendance: 5000 |
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Carlton |
0 |
Result: DRAW |
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1874
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20 June 1874 |
Carlton |
1 |
Venue: Royal Park; Attendance: 5000 |
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Melbourne |
0 |
Result: Carlton won by 1 goal |
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18 July 1874 |
Melbourne |
1 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground; Attendance: 10000 |
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Carlton |
2 |
Result: Carlton won by 1 goal |
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15 August 1874 |
Carlton |
2 |
Venue: Royal Park; Attendance: 10000 |
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Melbourne |
1 |
Result: Carlton won by 2 goals |
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The central umpire considered a third goal had been fairly kicked by Carlton, however the goal had been disallowed by the Melbourne goal umpire who had the final authority under the rules of the time. The Footballer 1875 counted the result as 2-1, but reported in the Argus 3-1. A crowd invasion following the disputed goal brought the match to a premature end. |
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19 September 1874 |
Melbourne |
0 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground; Attendance: 10000 |
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Carlton |
1 |
Result: Carlton won by 1 goal |
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1875
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19 June 1875 |
Carlton |
1 |
Venue: Royal Park; Attendance: 8000-10000 |
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Melbourne |
0 |
Result: Carlton won by 1 goal |
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17 July 1875 |
Melbourne |
2 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground; Attendance: 10000 |
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Carlton |
0 |
Result: Melbourne won by 2 goals |
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21 August 1875 |
Carlton |
2 |
Venue: University Ground |
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Melbourne |
0 |
Result: Carlton won by 2 goals |
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25 September 1875 |
Melbourne |
0 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground; Attendance: 7500 |
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Carlton |
1 |
Result: Carlton won by 1 goal |
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1876
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10 June 1876 |
Carlton |
3 |
Venue: Royal Park; Attendance: 10000 |
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Melbourne |
0 |
Result: Carlton won by 3 goals |
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8 July 1876 |
Melbourne |
2 |
Venue: Melbourne; Attendance: 10000 |
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Carlton |
1 |
Result: Melbourne won by 1 goal |
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19 August 1876 |
Carlton |
2 |
Venue: Picnic Reserve; Attendance: 5000 |
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Melbourne |
2 |
Result: DRAW |
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23 September 1876 |
Carlton |
1 |
Venue: Picnic Reserve; Attendance: 5000 |
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Melbourne |
2 |
Result: Melbourne won by 1 goal |
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Melbourne's first goal was disputed. The disputed outcome of this contest was one of the factors leading to the formation of the Victorian Football Association in 1877. |
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1877
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9 June 1877 |
Melbourne |
1- |
1- |
Venue: MCG; Attendance: 10000 |
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Carlton |
1- |
2- |
Result: Carlton won by 1 goal |
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First football game played on the MCG in many years. |
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14 July 1877 |
Carlton |
1- |
4- |
Venue: Madeline Street Ground; Attendance: 6000 |
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Melbourne |
0- |
0- |
Result: Carlton won by 4 goals |
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25 August 1877 |
Melbourne |
0-1 |
2-2 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground; Attendance: 6000 |
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Carlton |
2-5 |
2-7 |
Result: DRAW |
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29 September 1877 |
Carlton |
2-4 |
2-9 |
Venue: Madeline Street Ground; Attendance: 10000 |
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Melbourne |
2-3 |
3-10 |
Result: Melbourne won by 1 goal |
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Argus 7000; Age: 7000-8000; Footballer: Fully 10000. |
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1878
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8 June 1878 |
Melbourne |
0- |
2- |
Venue: MCG; Attendance: 5000 |
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Carlton |
0- |
1- |
Result: Melbourne won by 1 goal |
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Argus: The ground was heavy from recent rains. 'The game was not commenced until a quarter part 3 o'clock owing to the inexcusable unpunctuality of seven or eight of the Melbourne team.' |
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13 July 1878 |
Carlton |
1- |
1-12 |
Venue: EMCG; Attendance: 7000 |
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Melbourne |
2- |
3-5 |
Result: Melbourne won by 2 goals |
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24 August 1878 |
Melbourne |
1-2 |
2-3 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground; Attendance: 8000 |
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Carlton |
0-3 |
0-14 |
Result: Melbourne won by 2 goals |
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28 September 1878 |
Melbourne |
1-3 |
3- |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground; Attendance: 10000 |
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Carlton |
1-17 |
1- |
Result: Melbourne won by 2 goals |
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1879
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7 June 1879 |
Melbourne |
0- |
0- |
Venue: MCG; Attendance: 10000 |
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Carlton |
2- |
4- |
Result: Carlton won by 4 goals |
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12 July 1879 |
Carlton |
0-4 |
1-6 |
Venue: EMCG; Attendance: 7000 |
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Melbourne |
1-5 |
1-17 |
Result: DRAW |
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13 August 1879 |
Melbourne |
0- |
0- |
Venue: MCG; Attendance: Very large |
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Carlton |
2- |
3- |
Result: Carlton won by 3 goals |
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Played under electric light, play commenced at nearly 8:30pm. (Not counted as an official VFA game) |
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23 August 1879 |
Melbourne |
0-3 |
2-4 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground; Attendance: 10000 |
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Carlton |
0-6 |
1-10 |
Result: Melbourne won by 1 goal |
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27 September 1879 |
Carlton |
- |
- |
Venue: Prince's Oval; Attendance: 8000 |
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Melbourne |
- |
- |
Result: Cancelled |
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Disputes from both clubs over player eligibility resulted in Melbourne refusing to play. |
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1880
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5 June 1880 |
Melbourne |
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1-5 |
Venue: MCG; Attendance: 15000 |
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Carlton |
2- |
5-13 |
Result: Carlton won by 4 goals |
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2000 sheep grazed the MCG to prepare the ground. |
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10 July 1880 |
Carlton |
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2-9 |
Venue: EMCG; Attendance: 10000 |
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Melbourne |
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2-8 |
Result: DRAW |
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Match accounts note that among those attending were mounted troopers and "ragged urchins". |
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21 August 1880 |
Melbourne |
1-5 |
1-6 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground; Attendance: 5000-6000 |
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Carlton |
1-1 |
2-7 |
Result: Carlton won by 1 goal |
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Weather was very wet. The ground was very slushy, and the players had great difficulty maintaining their equilibrium. |
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25 September 1880 |
Carlton |
0-2 |
0-5 |
Venue: Prince's Oval; Attendance: 10000-12000 |
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Melbourne |
0-3 |
0-14 |
Result: DRAW |
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1881
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4 June 1881 |
Melbourne |
2-3 |
4-4 |
Venue: MCG; Attendance: 12000 |
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Carlton |
2-6 |
2-8 |
Result: Melbourne won by 2 goals |
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23 July 1881 |
Carlton |
2-3 |
4-7 |
Venue: EMCG; Attendance: 12000 |
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Melbourne |
1-5 |
1-9 |
Result: Carlton won by 3 goals |
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27 August 1881 |
Melbourne |
2-3 |
3-6 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground; Attendance: 10000 |
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Carlton |
0-8 |
3-19 |
Result: DRAW |
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Argus: 'The game, which was one of the best played this season, ended in a draw' |
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1 October 1881 |
Melbourne |
0-1 |
1-3 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground; Attendance: 8000 |
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Carlton |
1-5 |
1-9 |
Result: DRAW |
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Argus: 'The day was altogether unsuitable for football, the temperature being very high, and the wind extremely strong and hot from the north. ' |
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1882
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3 June 1882 |
Melbourne |
2-4 |
2-5 |
Venue: MCG; Attendance: 9000 |
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Carlton |
2-8 |
6-13 |
Result: Carlton won by 4 goals |
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22 July 1882 |
Melbourne |
0-7 |
1-15 |
Venue: MCG |
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Carlton |
0-4 |
2-11 |
Result: Carlton won by 1 goal |
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2 September 1882 |
Melbourne |
2-4 |
3-9 |
Venue: Melbourne Football Ground; Attendance: 10000-11000 |
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Carlton |
3-6 |
3-15 |
Result: DRAW |
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Argus: 'The attendance of spectators being larger than has been witnessed at any match during the season.' |
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30 September 1882 |
Carlton |
0-4 |
7-15 |
Venue: Prince's Oval; Attendance: 3000 |
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Melbourne |
3-8 |
3-12 |
Result: Carlton won by 4 goals |
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Play commenced at 4pm. |
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1883
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2 June 1883 |
Melbourne |
1-3 |
3-7 |
Venue: MCG |
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Carlton |
3-7 |
5-7 |
Result: Carlton won by 2 goals |
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Benefit match for George Coulthard. |
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28 July 1883 |
Carlton |
0-7 |
0-10 |
Venue: EMCG; Attendance: 8000 |
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Melbourne |
0-5 |
1-11 |
Result: Melbourne won by 1 goal |
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1 September 1883 |
Melbourne |
1-3 |
2-17 |
Venue: Fitzroy; Attendance: 6000 |
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Carlton |
1-5 |
1-8 |
Result: Melbourne won by 1 goal |
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Played at the new Fitzroy Cricket Ground. |
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29 September 1883 |
Carlton |
2-4 |
2-15 |
Venue: Prince's Oval; Attendance: 9000 |
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Melbourne |
0-4 |
0-8 |
Result: Carlton won by 2 goals |
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1884
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10 May 1884 |
Melbourne |
3-4 |
3-8 |
Venue: MCG |
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Carlton |
2-5 |
2-10 |
Result: Melbourne won by 1 goal |
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Argus: 'It has, perhaps, never happened that there has been a larger attendance on the ground and in the stand reserves.' |
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12 July 1884 |
Melbourne |
1-8 |
1-17 |
Venue: MCG; Attendance: 4000 |
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Carlton |
0-7 |
0-13 |
Result: Melbourne won by 1 goal |
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30 August 1884 |
Carlton |
4-15 |
4-18 |
Venue: EMCG; Attendance: 1500 |
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Melbourne |
0-0 |
3-12 |
Result: Carlton won by 1 goal |
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1885
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2 May 1885 |
Melbourne |
0-1 |
1-6 |
Venue: MCG; Attendance: 9000 |
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Carlton |
3-10 |
6-13 |
Result: Carlton won by 5 goals |
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27 June 1885 |
Melbourne |
1-5 |
1-8 |
Venue: MCG; Attendance: 6000 |
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Carlton |
1-11 |
2-14 |
Result: Carlton won by 1 goal |
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29 August 1885 |
Melbourne |
0-3 |
2-9 |
Venue: Friendly Societies' Gardens; Attendance: Very moderate |
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Carlton |
2-6 |
5-8 |
Result: Carlton won by 3 goals |
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1886
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8 May 1886 |
Melbourne |
0-1 |
1-4 |
1-4 |
1-7 |
Venue: MCG; Attendance: 5000 |
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Carlton |
2-2 |
3-5 |
4-13 |
6-15 |
Result: Carlton won by 5 goals |
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28 August 1886 |
Melbourne |
2-1 |
3-1 |
5-4 |
6-5 |
Venue: Friendly Societies' Ground; Attendance: Large |
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Carlton |
1-3 |
3-3 |
3-6 |
5-8 |
Result: Melbourne won by 1 goal |
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